Okay this idea came to me one night when I was thinking about what was going
to be in my next “Rant Column”. I thought it might be cool do the column in
a forum or round table discussion with a few sickos whose opinions I greatly
respect. So below you can see this idea has come to fruition. I got on the
phone and called up my esteemed and highly dedicated, not to mention well
respected within the scene CA writer Jeffrey Kusbel , then rang
Cameron Dominick (who you may know as the artist of the infamous covers
on Canadian Assault #’s 4 & 5!! Also I hope you know his name from the young
but mighty zine he edits/publishes called THE MEDIUM!), I then used
telepathy to contact my ancient friend and metal brother Keith Dempe
(Who for anyone too ignorant to know has done Eternal Darkness zine from
1989 to 2001, in addition to his distro, small record label – he is a
veteran of the scene & in fact if you look up old school die hard in the
metal underground dictionary you will see his picture there). I summoned
them all to the abyssic plunges in a deep dark cave in Eastern PA to where I
had a table set with 4 chairs (very sturdy, crafted from the finest human
bones) and plenty of alocohol for my cohorts but for me I chose numerous
goblets of
black blood. We begun our
discussion at the stroke of midnight as the fires of hell formed a
pentragram beneath our feet… - Dale Roy
Dale –
Masturbating at least a couple times a week is kind of mandatory I think
to stay sexually satisfied no matter how hot your woman is or if you get sex
a lot (so don’t us that usual cop out “I get lots of sex so I don’t need to”
shit either haha!) – I mean no one knows how to get you off better than the
fantasies in your head and your right hand man so to speak. How often do you
guys generally slap around the bishop in an average week?
Jeffrey –
Dale, I’m appalled at such a question! Haha!! Fuck man, masturbation is an
art form in my case. I truly can’t survive without jerkin off to break up my
days. Doesn’t Cath from Leather N’ Spikes talk about this a lot? I think
Keith will be too shy to comment on this one….
Cameron –
I jerk off about twice a day with the help of free porno pics, movie clips,
and incest stories from the internet. I say Jeff and I should gangbang Cath.
She probably says so too. Hail my penis. (and my LEFT hand)
Dale –
I doubt either of you could handle Cath haha!
Keith –
You think I’m gonna be too shy, do ya punk!? Well do ya?!? HAHA! No
seriously a question of this magnitude and breadth needs more than just a
cursory introspection...actually to tell you the HONEST truth? (Don’t tell
Jenny!!!) I just finished! HAHA! In fact I am getting hand cream all over
the computer keyboard! HAR!!!! So how’s that Jeffrey eh? HAHA! No I could
go into much detail on this matter and as, well Dale knows, probably the
only person to see my zine besides myself, I usually do!!! I first
discovered the fine art of auto-erotic manipulation around the age of 10,
but you know what? I didn’t touch the fucking thing until I was 15!
I used stuff like
palmolive and rubber gloves (oh now the shivers of nostalgia, ah yes, the
good ole days) and I could tell you a story of my hand, my wang doodle and a
tube sock, but I won’t “go there” as they say on the Rikki Lake show!
Fantasies in my head don’t usually work so well, dirty pictures, used
panties, a bottle of bubbly...now that’s a night! I get on with more of this
later on, but to answer your original question... I used to masturbate about
4 -5 times a day when I was a teenager, but I don’t do it hardly at all
anymore, I am on this medicine that is the Doctor Evil to my Mojo so to
speak... Ask Jenny!
(For those not in the know Jenny is Keith’s
beautiful fiancee’ - Dale) I have next to no sex
drive at all while I am on this shite, but she is pretty good at making the
South rise again! Though let me miss a dose, and I am all over myself,
Jenny, the knothole in my neighbors fence, you name it! Well since we’re
baring it all so to speak...
Dale –
HELL YEAH Keith!! Perverts unite!!
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Dale
– Am I the only one fed up to death with all
this reverse racism and how it is so fucking PC & correct to be that way?!
Affirmative action gives jobs to minorities over non-minorities regardless
of which person is more qualified for the position. How about some other
areas as well such as the United Negro College fund, special Negro only
scholarships, tv channels such as BET (Black Entertainment Television),
Black Starz Movie channel etc… etc…Can you even imagine the avalanche of
outcry (even by many whites as so many have been brainwashed at this point
to be racist against their own race!) if we created a United White college
fund, White only scholarships, a white equivalent of NAACP (National
Association for the Advancement of Colored People), how about a channel
called White only HBO?! If we did that we would not be seen as being proud
of our race but we would be branded white power & racists! Not to even
mention racist black rappers write the equivalent of Nazi speeches call them
lyrics and get gold records and are glorified on MTV & mainstream media!
Jeffrey –
Whitey is always trying to keep us down. Fuck him! Hitler had a plan which
procured the deaths of many yet his plan was nowhere near as cunning as the
plan to exterminate the white race entirely by black culture which is
evidenced every day and everywhere. Agree or not, African Americans have
slowly but surely permeated our youth and taken control of their thought.
99% of pre-teens in this country are ignorant fucks! They all speak in some
made up language and worship some gangster/murderer because he is cool while
at the same time any one of them would look down on a serial killer for the
sheer brutality and reason found within their madness. People who live on
this planet today that can’t grasp the fact that murder can be beautiful
should be killed!!!!
Murder is an art that can
be understood. People need to face their rage and not hide behind some fairy
tale book about supreme beings. The supremacy is within yourself! Fools who
drive around and shoot at people are mere animals playing with toys that
they could never understand. Reverse racism sickens me as it is so widely
accepted. Ask just about any person on the street. They don’t see a problem
with Black History Month. I think most of us know that half the NS bands out
there today are nowhere near as blatant as all this “kill whitey” under
ground rap floating around that is consumed eagerly my more white kids than
I care to even think about. Fuck them all. White, black, brown; if you can’t
speak the English language with at least an ounce of authority and have no
desire to educate yourself then you are merely wasted flesh in my eyes.
Cameron –
Jeff, you crazy damn cracker! You dah man! My problem is more with increased
sentencing for “hate crimes”. To me, a crime is a crime. Adding additional
sentencing because it was committed because of a racial bias is only to
increase the general criminalization of the people of the United States.
The other problem I have is with the recent idea of re-imbursement for
slavery. A large number of my ancestors weren’t in this country until after
the end of slavery so---re-imbursement my ass.
Keith –
First off I have always taken issue with the term “reverse racism”, to me
racism is racism, saying it like this trivializes the plight of the proud
white Americans in this country... It is like the term “hate crime”, I mean
a cop in Cinncinnati who shoots a man, who doesn’t have a gun, but is
gunning a car at him is a hate crime. All the while something like, oh say a
once popular black athlete, that uses his white ex wife and her white
boyfriend as practice for carving next year’s Thanksgiving Day turkey, is
merely dismissed as happenstance because a cop on the case used the word
“nigger” a couple of years ago...oh I am sorry, he did use the word more
than once, I guess that makes it okay doesn’t it? Or here is one, the word
“nigger” is now widely considered by both blacks and whites to be “the most
offensive word in the English language”, well I can think of some that are
more offensive, “cunt” for one, offends most women, you want a reaction out
of a woman, call her that! And there are MANY times more women than there
are blacks on this earth.
Call my uncle Jack a
“bastard” and you’ll be holding your fucking teeth! Also they use the
phrase “waaasssssuuuupp nigga!” on TV, but I don’t think they’ll be saying
something like “you cocksucking, motherfucking no good shit eater!” anytime
soon, so technically the word “nigger” is then LESS offensive, for the mere
fact you can say it on the most public forum of them all-television!!! My
point? There are so many inequities in today’s society that it isn’t a
matter of “if” this zoo will be turned over to the monkees, but when this
once PROUD nation will sink to the lowest common denominator with fucking Al
Sharpton at the head! If he runs in 2004....PLEASE every American reading
this, write in your vote for president-Tawata Brawley! Remember that shit!
Where this fat black girl from a poor part of New York got impregnanted,
like so many of them do, by her black boyfriend, who found out and split,
again, like so many of them do. So she went to ole’ Reverend Al Sharpton
who concocted a story that she was raped and impregnated by 2 WHITE NYC
cops. This basically ruined these men’s lives even though the girl admitted
it was false... That happened in 1990, it is now 2002, do we hear anything
about that anymore? NO but EVERYONE remembers what happened to Rodney King,
remember good ole, upstanding citizen of the month Rodney King?
People just remember that
he was beaten, NO ONE remembers he was high on PCP, attacked police officers
and those same officers were then tried by a jury of their peers and found
NOT GUILTY. No one remembers what happened next, oh that little slight of
hand our government has so perfected over the years...they subverted the
standard double jeopardy rule of law, subverted the VERY justice system that
these men wore as a badge of honor and proudly served, got them retried in a
black community and sentenced to HARD TIME! Remember Rodney King? Yea of
course you do! Do you remember Reginal Denny? I doubt many can say they
do. Ask yourself, can you?
To address Jeffrey’s
point about the honor among murderers, do you guys remember the Dahmer case?
No not the stuff Macabre sing so merrily about but the case logistics of the
matter. Jeffrey was found guilty of killing ALL minorities (actually he
killed I think one or two whites but they were early on), Jeffrey was a
homosexual, an extremely disturbed young man, who found that black men were
beautiful...I know there’s no accounting for taste, just bear with me... The
Zionist run media made it out to be a hate crime, because he only picked
black men. You saw the fat black woman in the pink jacket try to attack him
in the court room during the victim acknowledgement statements, OVER and
OVER and OVER, in fact you saw it so much it tainted the picture, I mean
everyone hates a bigot right? But not too many people hate the mentally
disturbed for doing what they do?
I mean it is called
INSANITY! Do you think a man that was keeping penises like popsicles in the
freezer and doing his own home style lobotomies could form the requisite
intent to truly be found guilty of murder as opposed to guilty by reason of
insanity? If it was all white men, Ed Gein is a similar case, it was 40
years prior but the cases were VERY similar, he was put in a mental
institution for the rest of his days where he died peacefully. Jeffrey was
asked to be put in the general population, it is a sure a way to kill
yourself as if he would’ve swallowed a .44. Another state sanctioned death
(albeit a suicide, which is still illegal mind you) of a white man PURELY
because his legal case was twisted and turned and his sentence was basically
formulated in the mass media. DO you know why that black guy that beat
Jeffrey to death did it? Because Jeffrey “didn’t have the right to be
called a killer”, and Jeffrey was born with the same inalienable rights as
that guy, hmmm doesn’t it make that a hate crime? You don’t see anyone
calling civil rights attorney for Jeffrey, another WHITE man, lost in the
stampede to raise the black man onto a pedestal in these, the African
American States of America!
But really folks, I mean
if you are going to do something that is going to end up getting you
executed or put in jail for life, why not DO IT WELL! If there is any
wisdom to be found in a person that truly disgusts me-Charlie Manson (not
because he is a “killer” but because he sent little teenie boppers to do his
dirty work because he was scared), it is this...he said on A&E (Jeffrey you
know this as well) “If you’re gonna do something...do it well, if you’re
gonna do it, do something witchy”. Basically, whatever you do-strive for
greatness! Look at killers who STILL haunt us today like Jack the Knife,
Zodiac (CA), The Green River Killer (they have a good suspect in that one I
guess), these guys have eluded police, manhunts, FBI profilers, for years,
decades even centuries. How many brothas do you know that can make it out
of the city limits without getting caught? Anyway I guess I got a bit
carried away with that one...
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Dale –
There is probably a lowered amount of negative
reviews in this current issue, do you think that is due to less crap being
released or has it just taken all the record labels big and small 6 issues
of peeling the skin off their releases to realize maybe they shouldn’t send
that sort of thing in for review?! Napalm and Prophecy recently dropped us
and I’ve been devastated ever since please note dripping sarcasm…
Jeffrey –
I recently made an order through Prophecy. They took 2 months to get my shit
to me as well. Surface mail cheapos! I also sent them a copy of the new CA.
I guess they finally read one. There is plenty of crap still coming out in
my opinion though. It must mostly be on those 2 labels. Haha!!
Cameron –
Hmmm. Maybe they can pick and choose from more releases to send. Or maybe
you have more stuff to review and choose not to waste much space on crap. I
think that’s pretty valid.
Keith –
Man I don’t even know Prophecy records? I guess I am
a bit “out of the loop” so they say...NO NO NO I DO NOT think there is less
crap being put out these days, I go to the record stores and hear things on
the web or through trading or whatever, I have NEVER seen so much TOTAL SHIT
being released, I mean Viking Cr(AP) is in the mall shops now! I started an
arguement with this guy Iorgamund on a website about listing Viking Crown as
TRUE black metal in an article which even states that if you’re buying stuff
at the mall it is shit, well Viking Crown is AT THE MALL there Iorgamund!
SO I guess it is shit now right? Or he’s probably into something like
listening to nothing but Graveland 25 hours a day by now, you know a REAL
black metal fan... Fuck! If he is reading this I wanted to ask him to email
me again I lost his email address and couldn’t respond to his last email!
But again I digress...Today’s scene is total shit, I have been listening to
most all old stuff, and old demos and dub tapes, fuck this new stuff.
I do like some of the
bands today, some worth mention are Karnarium, Bestial Mockery (GODZ), Lust
of course, Buchenwald Oven is fucking excellent (thank Jeff!), Kristallnacht,
Barathrum, Open Grave, Lucifugum, Blasphemy is back!, Seigneur Voland, Black
Witchery, Mutilation is back!, Kill, Goatvomit, Grand Belial’s Key,
Nunslaughter, Sathanas, The Forgotten, Rigor Sardonicous, Barbatos (GODZ!),
the last of the Maniac Butcher, Judas Iscariot of course, Diaboli, Bewitched
(SWE and CHI), Mortuary Drape of course, Khold, Spear of Longinus, Unholy
Massacre, Blessed In Sin, Nethermancy, Decayed, Diabolical
Masquerade,Sadistic Grimness, Sons of Satan, Unholy Archangel, Varathron has
always been SACRED in my book, lots of great stuff but it takes some looking
to find the truly excellent stuff!
Dale –
That is a fucking cult list of bands my friend – you
have good taste!!
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Dale –
Am I the only vinyl collector seated at the table who thinks it royally
sucks when bands release special limited 7” Eps or LPs with “special bonus
track only for this release!” stuff & later on they release that stuff “only
for diehards” as Odds And Sods comp albums or bonus’ on other disc
releases?!
Jeffrey –
Angel Corpse pissed me off by releasing the material from their original
limited and “exclusive” 7”s on their last cd. Yes, I hate that! I sold my
copies of those 7”s on ebay for a quick buck because I was so pissed. When
you really analyze it though, the vinyl version is still better to own if
you have a choice. What really pisses me off is labels who re-issue rare and
limited vinyl on vinyl. There is no excuse for this! Who wants to own a
crappy re-press of a cult 7”? Blackmetal.com re-released a whole slew of old
Norwegian black metal 7”s a few years back and they looked like shit!
They weren’t even in
color for fucks sake! People were even paying big bucks on ebay for them
because they had no idea that they were getting re-presses. Sucks for them I
guess. With all the bootlegs out there these days, collectors really need to
educate themselves. Some boots are actually worth owning though, for
example, the Mayhem “De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas” album was recently
re-pressed on blue vinyl with a killer insert featuring all kinds of old
band pics. Plus it was limited to 200 copies. A nice looking piece and
definitely a piece you might want if you can’t afford the high price tag on
the original pressing of that cult vinyl. I could go on about this forever
really.
Dale –
Yes Angelcorpse is a fine example of going back on your promise and kind of
screwing over the original fans who bought the 7”s thinking they were
getting something limited and special. Blackmetal.com is another good
example I was more than pissed when they apparently pressed up the
Hellhammer ’83 7”, which was limited to 333 copies and attempted to pass if
off as an original by changing nothing in the layout or putting their
logo/address on it and then selling them on Ebay.
Cameron –
My feelings on this are a little mixed. It kind of sucks but I also like
Impaled Nazarene and Sabbat and am happy that old stuff becomes available.
The original 7‘s are still cult. I guess bands just shouldn’t say they’ll
never re-release stuff. It’s not like either of those bands is gonna be in
the top 40 anytime soon. (Well IN may be in the Finnish top 40 but that’s a
weird place anyway, heh). It should be on comps though, not add ons. Iron
Maiden stuff keeps getting remarketed and I think that's a rip off (I think
Maiden thinks so too). The Hellhammer repress sounds dishonorable. They
should put something on it so people know it’s newer. King Fowley may not be
giving royalties on some of the stuff he is repressing but he’s not doing it
to make a buck, he’s doing it because he loves the band and makes sure
people know it’s not the original press.
Keith –
Man that Hellhammer story is fucking CRIMINAL! Someone should definitely be
hung for that one. I can tell you a story from a different perspective I
think. I released an Order From Chaos 7” in 1994 with two supposedly
unreleased versions of two of their songs, I mean that was my selling
point! Anyway a year later, good ole fucking rip off artist Michel
“Nephesh” Bronkhurst and some other people talked me into letting Michel use
the songs as bonus tracks to the Plateau of Invincibility CD which
Shivadarripoff Records was releasing. Anyway The CD came out an on it
Michel was nice enough to say (after I let him use the songs for FREE, no
hassles just so he mentioned Eternal Darkness Creations on the CD) on the
CD booklet that HE liscensed the songs to ME!
Anyway the CD came out
and in 1995 the vinyl craze had not picked up (mind you I was releasing
vinyl when it was NOT cool!). my sales plumpeted into the sub-basement, I
mean I didn’t see a single sale for those for like 2 years once, anyway I
hear from someone that the 7” is going on eBay for $40! I still have (I
think) over 150 left! And I am STILL selling them for $4 (US) $5(World).
I don’t believe in this practice of selling your own releases on eBay for
such high prices, this is the bad thing about eBay, I hear some labels
actually go on there and just sell first run stuff real expensive, I have
heard names to, which of course I won’t mention because it is all
conjecture. If anyone wants a Order From Chaos 7” write me!
Dale
– I think the fact Keith was releasing vinyl
when it was the worst period for vinyl in the metal underground’s history
says a fucking ton about how dedicated this motherfucker is!! While all you
Ebay surfers & SOD, Grimoire mag buyers were drooling over Morrisound
produced gloss CDs Keith was releasing kult vinyl – think about that!
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Dale –
Speaking of limited do you think it has or will soon get out of hand? At
what point does it go from being a cult thing for diehards to being snobby
and pompous? For an example do you think it would be a cool idea to do the
next issue of Canadian Assault in only 30 copies – 20 sloppily hand-written
(like most UG snail mail communiqué) copies scribbled upon coffee filters
and a second special additional strictly limited to 10 copies of a video
zine version of the issue on blue coloured plastic Beta video cassettes with
5 of those including poser strangling strength piano wire dipped in goat’s
blood?
Jeffrey –
Beta videos in blue plastic? Hey hey! I think Pat from
Hellwitch might actually enjoy that. Haha! That’s an overblown example
obviously but I think limiting certain items is a great bonus for the die
hards that eventually end up with the items. Funny you never hear of bands
like Limp Faggot Dick or Madonna limiting their stuff. It’s because they
don’t fucking care. They’ll rape their fans for whatever they can. That’s
all they have at the end of the day. $. It is a true ideal of the ug to
unite and be part of something. An idealogy or vision. Granted, you don’t
need limited merchandise to do it but I certainly appreciate the fact that
the limited records I went out of my way to own right away can’t also be in
the collection of some faggot jock trendy 2 years down the road. In almost
all cases people like that aren’t going to put extra effort into collecting
it and obtaining it.
They don’t care and
they’ll soon be on to the next big thing. I’ve seen it dozens of times.
People that live and breathe the ug will fight til the death to support
their favorite bands and to own collections of ug items to stroke off to. I
know I do. That’s half the fun I think. It took me a year to finally get the
Judas Iscariot “Distant In Solitary Night” lp and I paid about $100 for it
but it was worth it to me. That thing was limited to 100 pieces and only 99
other fanatics in this world own a copy. You tell me, is it worth it? To
some, yes. To others, no. It’s the music and ideals that count in the end.
Dale –
That’s a valid example in many ways because you tell
me what happens if there is 500 true die hard maniacs that must have every
release of Judas Iscariot and now only 100 out of those die hard warriors
gets to own that vinyl and be in an elite snob club that the other no less
dedicated fans get no part of enjoying. Obviously your other point is true
but when you are limiting things between 1-300 copies especially almost
every time there fans out there every bit as die in the wool as you are that
are left in the cold. I think when the numbers come up more around the 4, 5,
& 6 hundred levels then you are truly getting it into die hard fans hands
and excluding the trend fuckers because it will be sold out on them, only
the die hards following the labels and bands really close will know about it
in time (though I suppose a trendy might be able to spend a couple hundred
of Daddy’s money to get it off Ebay if the label is foolish enough to do
whole sale on limited items)…
Cameron –
I think a coffee filter Canadian Assault would rule!
Hail hoser metal coffee! Do Canadians even filter their coffee? I think the
first ten copies should include back-bacon. I think most underground
releases are limited because that’s all people can afford. I think however
that if you repress a real low number of something real limited and sell it
at an outrageous markup you are obviously a rip off. If you believe in a
release you want as a high a press rate as possible (without sucking up to a
major) so everyone can hear/see it. I now own the Impaled Nazarene/Beherit-Day
Of Darkness split LP and paid a silly amount for it. To me IN is up there
with Motorhead and Sodom. Of course I’d probably trade a dub of it for
something cool because that's the underground way. There' s a big
difference between a horder/collector and a fan. I'm a fan.
Dale –
Only the “superior cultured” French half use coffee filters I think and
would that backbacon be cooked or uncooked?!
Keith –
This I think is another bad aspect of eBay, I mean a label can (theorectically
anyway) come out with a vinyl release, say a double LP version of Incubus
(from Florida not the Louisiana band-something rare) two Lps worth of
unreleased demo material recorded at Morrisound produced by Dave Vincent say
in 1987 right after Mike left Morbid Angel. They limit it to 200 copies
black vinyl and 50 copies green vinyl and then put the word out on eBay and
start the bidding at $200 (now bare with me I know shit about whats
valueable on eBay), now most people don’t even know that there is a band of
ex Morbid Angel members called Incubus, everyone remembers the one that
recently reformed.
So say 1/4 goes to the
ones that remember the original Incubus TRUE black/death metal warriors like
us, chances are they are real metalheads on a limited budget as all of us
are. But of course the description is going to gush all over that this is
ex Morbid Angel members (from the Abominations era anyway) So all of these
goth fags and kids that think Kittie is as kult as Von who went to see
Morbid Angel opening for these little teenie bopper sluts and Pantera on the
tour last year will, as Dale said, ask mommy and daddy for the money,
because without a doubt these kids still live at home and are todays
versions of a girl with a mohawk and Exploited shirt driving mom’s Mercedes
to school was in my day. AKA posers and false people. And what Nu Metal
fans actually listen to this shit on into their 20’s when they give up music
because Nu Metal offers such a limited supply of any reward. Well anyway
this kid sees the word Morbid Angel and gets mom to dish out the smack for
it, say 3/4 of the people get it like this and have no idea what a prized
possession they own. It is a total wash, but all anyone at the label that
pressed this thing cares about is that they made a fucking mint. Remember
the old RC Records ads from 1989 that said “Some Music Was Meant To Stay
Underground”?
Well of course the bands
on that ad didn’t (Obituary and Sepultura) but I always thought it was
perplexing that such a capitalist company as Roadracer came up with SUCH a
poigniant catch phrase. Some music REALLY WAS meant to stay underground. I
remember going to school in 1989 with a Sepultura “Bestial Devastation”
shirt on (no shit either I bought it from Wild Rags) and this jock in my
criminology class came up to me and said, where’d ya get the Sepultura
shirt? First off how the HELL did this jackass even KNOW who Sepultura was
in 1989 let alone recognize the ancient logo from the split LP from under my
jacket? That is too much information for most of these human maggots to
amass, they do NOT deserve to be in MY scene and listen to MY sacred music
as some Nu Metal or other pedestrian type shit. Get my point? Also who
needs this capitalistic bullshit in the underground, the underground is a
movement, a way of life, not some money making tool or business.
Dale –
Again this is another example of the good vs. evil of Ebay. As it makes cult
and limited items more easily accessible for those posers who use Mom & Pops
money to buy it and who would never put out the effort to research the
labels releasing it first and getting it before it sold out of it’s limited
press.
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Dale –
Everyone who thinks Osmose’s putting special audio protection on all
their new releases which is so complete not only cannot you not burn a copy
but you cannot even listen to the thing on your comp and I know a lot of
people whose only CD player is their computer! Raise your hand if think this
is a lame move – okay, okay this is not a fuckin’ underarm anti-Perspirant
commercial…
Jeffrey
– On and on we’ll go with this one. I
noticed they even did this with their promos. I honestly wonder if this has
increased their sales at all. This was obviously the intent and that in
itself makes Osmose the first in a line of greedy labels. I’m sure others
will follow suit and as you have said yourself Dale; this will most likely
become the industry standard in the future. I posted on the Full Moon
Productions web board about this one and I basically got a bunch of childish
feedback but overall it seems like everyone is just going to accept it. I
personally do a lot of work online and I think it’s gay to have to bring a
portable stereo by my pc when I have a brand new cd drive in my pc.
The thing that really
pisses me off is that the label won’t even acknowledge anyone who complains.
They even set up the message board on their website so that they can edit
all messages before posting them. Needless to say that they didn’t even post
my rant on their board and I’m sure numerous others like it. Also, why is
there no warning on the outside of the package that lets potential buyers
know that Osmose is basically coming into your home and removing your cd-rom
drive from your computer every time you want to listen to one of their new
discs? Fuck em. The new Enslaved “Funkumension” album sucks anyway.
Dale –
Hey I take offense to that Enslaved dig, actually I
don’t haha I agree it does kind of suck.
Cameron –
I think it sucks balls. A lot of people copy their CDs to have a copy to
play in the car (where it’s likely to get ripped off, especially if you live
in the city). However I think Osmose does not wish this to be the case but
is forced by circumstance to use a pressing plan run by SONY which enforces
this code thing. It’s an example of the consolidation of the majors
affecting even the underground and is one of the main issues I’m interested
in. I still like Osmose (but they should put a notice on and look for other
pressing facilities).
Keith –
First off if I may, a couple of statements to clarify, and excuse me if I
may sound cynical. What did you expect from a label that signed a band just
on the merits of the “Goats to Azazel” demo? That demo was a piece of SHIT
and Angelcorpse was signed INSTANTLY just because Pete had his hand and
perhaps other limbs in Herve’s posterior nether regions. I know Angelcorpse
went on to have a great fucking career and tour the world so that little
dipshits in high school who want to be more evil than the chick who wears
the Cradle of Filth shirt with that dirty “c” word on it, can be Mr. Heathen
War Metal of George Washington High School with an Angelcorpse shirt that
half the world already wears.
Anyway I know Dale at
least knows the stories I have told him about the way Pete used lies and the
media more than these Jews he gets so mad at in his little “theologies” (or
for a better phrase, his verbal masturbation which is almost as good as
Gene’s fretboard masturbation) to put down Chuck and ultimately the rest of
the REAL band in the matter ORDER FROM CHAOS! If I may Dale just for a
second go with this one?
(Feel free to proceed my metal brother! –
Dale) I have never had such an audience to air my
grievances about this little skinhead prick who used to call himself- freind.
Does ANYBODY believe that Peter Helmkamp could formulate the music of such
an elite squad as Order From Chaos? He has said this before, perhaps many
more times than I have heard about or seen, but CHUCK KELLER, CHARLES R.
KELLER III, HIM and NO OTHER member of this band wrote the music to Order
From Chaos! Besides Iron Maiden (which is a bad example anyway because Pete
is DEFINITELY NO STEVE HARRIS EITHER) name one band that is popular in the
REAL scene that the bass player (who doesn’t play any other instruments)
composes all of the music? Well if you thought of one please tell me
because I sure couldn’t.
Also Pete’s lyrics (the
ones from the Order from Chaos days not the ones he STALIN-ized into
Angelcorpse lyrics) were FINE indeed, in fact until I heard Exterminate I
thought Pete was one of the finest lyricists of them all. I used to head
the Order From Chaos fan club, I LIVED for this band. But really, look at a
song like “There Lies Your Lord! Father of Victories!!” (which on the
ORIGINAL version of the final album came FIRST before Pete remastered and
remixed it without the rest of the band’s permission, he also altered the
artwork, again, sans permission) I mean does Pete’s lyricisms, EVER, in
Order From Chaos, in Angelcorpse or in, ahem...Terror Organ EVER do they top
this triumphant Wagnerian-esque epic? No I don’t think so, The Conqueror of
Fear epic comes close, that was Pete’s best work ever... that and Webs of
Perdition. But remember before you say Pete wrote all or even the majority
of the lyrics, (and this is in NO CRITICISM to the fine albums that had
these songs on them which stand as an eternal monument-Pete’s mental
regression post-OFC notwithstanding) Just remember how many times you saw
songs like Tenebrae, or Plateau of Invincibility on different releases.
Furthermore, we are all judged by someone greater than ourselves, some
people think that may be Jehovah? I however do not...Some think we are
judged by Allah... I however do not...to me we are ALL judged by the 4
horsemen of the apocalypse, yes that’s right, Cronos, Mantas, Abaddon and
Quorthon....
Okay let’s put Pete up
against Chuck Chuck has been HONORABLY mentioned on Hammerheart by Bathory
and Eric Cook, Venom’s manager during the only years that matter in the
band’s career seriously wanted to sign Ares Kingdom, which of course is a
band composed of , yes you guessed it-Chuck and Mike of Order From
Chaos...and a little parting note for all of you faithful followers of
Pete’s Conqueror philosophies...let’s all pull out our Crushed Infamy demos
and look to the lyric sheet, on the lyric sheet you’ll find a song called
“Crimes Against the State” which was penned by proud aryan and conqueror
Peter Helmkamp....“Religion and Culture was their crime, Basis on
race and creed, Centuries of Progress-persecutions, Denying their right to
be, A people predestined to suffer, Fell Victims of misanthropy, Propaganda
and lies Liquidation of human species” -from Crimes
Against the State 1989 PLEASE, I agree with much of the
“reactionary” political swing this scene’s attitude has taken, if for no
other reason any band that writes black metal songs about saving the
environment are pretty much shunned, black/death (in LARGE part thanks to
Order From Chaos) has become hateful again.
But don’t believe this
swill that Pete spouts from the mountain so readily. Investigate things for
yourself, don’t believe Pete’s interpretations lock, stock and
barrel...remember Jim Jones and that fateful day in Guyana? Pete is no
revisionist Hitler with illusions of Crowley and Lavey, Pete is merely just
trying to be another Jim Jones leading lemmings to the sea. And give credit
where credit is due, Chuck wrote a lot of the lyrics and had the most to do
with the music than anyone else in Order From Chaos...besides everything
Morbid Angel released after Altars of Madness was crap, therefore everything
Angelcorpse did was crap. Rehashed, second generation crap is still crap!
This issue of the labels right protecting their Cds, is total crap! I have
always said a band that doesn’t encourage tape trading of their music is a
band that deserves to be traded all the more. This underground is based on
tape trading, or was anyway in the GOOD OLE DAYS, anyone who has tape traded
or opposes tape trading is “too cool” for MY underground! If a band or
label doesn’t want their stuff dubbed be it on CDR or tape, do it all the
more! Also if you disagree with this, read the interviews of the bands,
find out their motives and act accordingly. If they support these
business-like activities within the underground BOYCOTT them! Who needs
rock stars and multi national corporate labels in the REAL underground
anyway? Let the kids at the mall have it!
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Dale –
Do you think if they took “C”, “K” & “Z” out of their alphabet the whole
Polish language would fall apart?
Jeffrey –
It’s just a simple language really. It’s funny to compare English to any
other language. I have respect for any person growing up in a foreign
country that can speak our language fluently.
Cameron –
Hahahahahah. Filip (Agonia War zine from Poland & writer for CA – Dale),
your wife (My wife is Polish in case anyone does not get this joke haha –
Dale) and I are all gonna kick your ass now Dale! If you took beer out of
hockey games would the Canadian government fall apart?
Dale –
Could happen, what if they stopped selling beer at football & baseball games
would American society fall apart?
Keith –
I have never tried to speak Polish, but I think
Finnish would be an interesting language to learn, piling 4 and 5 vowels on
top of each other has always fascinated me!
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Dale –
Is it not gay when a label or band names themselves something dot com?!
For example the label BlackMetal.com or even worse mixing it with ebonics in
the case of the bands Twiztid.com & 5.0bese….
Jeffrey –
I like the label Blackmetal.com but I really don’t
know why they didn’t just call it Black Metal or Cybertzara. I am very much
dreading even having to hear a bit of Twiztid at this years NJ fest. Why are
they going to be there amongst a bunch of metal bands? It will only bring in
the dread locked, dirty, gang banger element. Like the stupid jock fuckers I
saw at the 99 Milwaukee fest wearing the Hilfiger shirts. Who knows how the
fuck they ended up there but I’m surprised they didn’t get beaten. I am
comfortable with being closed minded to an extent. A large one. Metal is for
the closed minded. Even your most pc metal journalist will admit that. If it
isn’t to the music then it is to the people that populate this planet. In
most cases, both.
Dale –
Metal is for the musically close minded I totally agree with that and
embrace it. I think this fanzine kind of takes that philosophy and turns it
into twisted artform haha.
Cameron –
blackmetal.com is dorky and non-metal sounding but what the hell. What’s a
Twiztid? Is it related to Twizzlers candy? The integration of groove-core
into a metal fest is shitty. Blame the fucking money grubbing promoters.
Keith –
Actually Black Metal Records was a label in England
from about 1994 or 1995 right? So maybe that is why they called it Black
Metal.com, speaking of which has everyone gotten the new Sathanas yet? If
not you’re missing out on one of the best black/death metal releases in
years! Hold on for a second, there is a Nu Metal band called Twiztd.com?
Fuck doesn’t that say about everything you need? Remember the Vomitor demo
from 1999? Death Dealer put on the cover that no digital recording was used
on it, analog is the way of metal! Putting .com into your band name, HELL
even your label name, kinda says you play or support digitized, polished,
neat, clean, trendy music. Even though in the case of Black Metal.com it is
untrue, it still sounds like its true just by the name...let the .com’s go
to crap like Cher and N’Sync who use computers to make their music and then
make their voices sound better, basically all you need today to be super
popular is to fit the outfits and look the part! Didn’t we as a society
learn anything from the classic cautionary tale of Johnny Bravo on the Brady
Bunch?
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Dale –
We could stop polluting our lands by using
self-sufficient so called “Free Energy” sources such as Cold Fusion,
underground temperature control coils, wind power, solar power etc… Due to
our old friends “greed” &(=) “capitalism” they will never let it happen (For
example GE buying the patent from the guy who created a light bulb that will
last longer than our life span, so he could not sell it) because it will
stop or at least slow down their money train – I mean as long as they get
rich fuck the planet right?!
Jeffrey –
This is another widely known fact and the worst part is that it has become
accepted. Think of the story of Tesla. He actually had invented a way for
all humans to freely use electricity through the atmosphere rather than
having to pay to have it supplied by someone. “They” said “No way!” and he
got pissed and tried to kill the planet. Cool guy. Better to die than be
raped on a daily basis right? Think about how much of your paychecks are
spent on utilities and hauling garbage, etc. Man needs a re birth. We need
to cease being weak willed and stand up against the machine that we all
cower beneath. I do my part everyday to an extent. It’s hard but possible.
The meek will not inherit this fucking earth! They’ll be the first to fuckin
die!
Dale –
I had people Tesla in mind when I wrote that question
I still think there is a cover-up surrounding his death I think they wanted
to shut him up and use his inventions & theories for themselves (burying the
inventions which would help free energy along and other society helping but
money hindering theories!) to make money. I speak of the gov’t of course.
Cameron –
Go Dale! Humans are quite weak compared to the rest of the animal kingdom.
The only reason we have lasted this long is due to our intelligence/logic.
Corporate power is endangering our very existence by placing greater
importance on the wealth of the few over the needs of the many. This
knowledge leads to my humanistic versus nihilistic feelings in general. I’m
going to mention a little theory I’ll put in my next issue. The U.S. is an
organism. The immune system is the Government and the red blood cells are
the People. Corporations are a virus that has infected the organism through
the immune system so that it takes protein (time/money) from the people and
diverts it to corporations instead of being used to help the body. The end
result is neither a capitalism nor a democracy per se but a Corporatocracy.
Government by and for Corporations. John Carpenter's Thing was a cool movie
too.
Dale –
Yes of course you are right gov’t and corporations go hand in hand in fact
it is often hard to tell where one ends and the other begins.
Keith –
I didn’t know they put the theories of cold fusion into practice? And I
agree with Jeffrey, those of us who do not assume the position are gently
asked to, and then forced to so that the powers that be in this world can
fuck us up the ass. The Post Office is a good example, nice little way for
these inbred postal workers to get good record collections eh? I just don’t
worry about it anymore, I think that comes with age... I turned 30 last week
and realized I could worry about all of this shit and cause myself to lose
time and energy or I could use that time to a greater purpose, like surfing
internet porn and whacking off!
Dale –
HAHA!! Whacking off is a great thing and well there are some small working
models of cold fusion energy but the big corporations are doing their best
to discourage anyone from funding a full scale model or mass production use
of it. Just as one would expect.
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Dale –
Dawn Of The Dead has to be close to the best horror /
gore flick ever made!! Day Of The Dead is not far off either, though it
would have been so much better if Romero hadn’t nearly run out of budget a
quarter way in and had to chop the script in half.
Jeffrey –
One of my personal all time favorites of course. I like the gore in the 3rd
flick better but the story in Dawn was much eerier. Day had too much of a
campy and humorous atmosphere. The Goblin soundtrack was whacko, the
cinematography was ahead of it’s time, and the atmosphere is unbeatable. No
zombie flick can compare to the feeling I get when I watch them all get
trapped in the mall as the zombies close in and the “safe zone” just gets
smaller and smaller. The acting is top notch as well. This whole project was
an inspired piece of work!
Dale
– I probably could not have said that any
better myself thanx – Hails!
Cameron –
I presently like Day better. I think it’s more hopeless in a way. The
professor probably was on the right track but even he was nuts. Just
hopeless. Yeaaaaa! But the whole trilogy rules.
Keith –
I know you and Jeffrey know this Dale, but for the
public at large and Cameron, I live in Pittsburgh, Romero is a religion
around here. In fact I go to a comic book convention every year in a
convention center that was built in the parking lot of the mall in the movie
Dawn of the Dead, and the GOOD record conventions in town are held at the
Palace Inn just up the road from it! It is about 30 miles from my
apartment! You guys gotta come stay with me and check it out! This kid who
I used to be friends with used to hang out with Tom Savini as well, he lives
in town too.
Also my car which is a
1983 Dodge Aries (I don’t mean to make you jealous, put let me tell you it
is one precision piece of automotive genius! The fucking piece of shit!) and
it only gets AM radio, so I listen to the only music station Pittsburgh has
on AM when I am in the car (since I have no other choice) 1320 WJAS. From
10AM-3PM everyday the smooth talking deejay who takes you through the
greatest hits of Abba and Herb Alpret and the Tijuana Brass is Bill
Cardille (aka Chilly Billy) he played the news caster interviewing the
hunters at the end of Night of the Living Dead! I like all three movies,
but my favorite is Dawn of the Dead, it is the FINEST horror flim of all
time, easily!
Dale –
I vow one day before I expire to visit the holy shrine (aka Monroeville
Mall) and walk it’s halls and parking lot like a zombie from the movie!!!
“When there
is no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth!!!”
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Dale –
In Scandinavia the gov’t helps bands who put out albums and most if not
all communities have a special music center(s) with brand new equipment
(guitars, drums…) and all you have to do is sign up for rehearsal times
every week and you do not even need to buy instruments to have a band. They
even let you sign them out to record apparently. Do you think this accounts
for the amount of bands to population ratio over there and do you think the
same would happen here if it were like that or are our populace so
brainwashed on a steady diet of fast food culture of television and video
games etc… it wouldn’t matter?
Jeffrey –
I think that you really only need to look at the size
of our population compared to theirs for the answer to this. Also, the fact
that our country is a melting pot to a disgusting degree only helps tie up
funds with racial whining and social welfare programs that will never allow
$ to be so easily had by those who will actually use it. I was in Chicago
before xmas and a mother who looked high on crack or some hard drug was
carrying her baby on to the train I was on. She actually smacked her babies
head into the shoulders of a line of about 20 people as she walked to her
seat. I mean smacked! I’m surprised the kids neck wasn’t broken. I wanted to
just fucking punch all her teeth out but who would that benefit? Now maybe
if I wiped out the kid too then we could all benefit a little. The point is
that people like this exist. They exist because we allow them too and we
allow our gov’t to take our $ and give it to them to keep cranking out more
subhuman and soon to be uneducated trash. This is the biggest atrocity we
face as Americans. When will we draw the line?
Why can’t we establish a
law that limits the amount of children a woman can conceive? Japan does it.
It works there. I am sick and tired of all of these fleshbags polluting our
society and our land. They serve no purpose but to gorge themselves on the
achievements of others. Our gov’t actually will help put low income humans
through school but the number of people that apply for student loans are far
surpassed by those that collect welfare and food stamps. We are falling
apart and this is just what the shadow gov’t that are really calling the
shots want. Be ignorant, worry about Ally Macbeal and Mcdonalds, we are
looking out for YOUR best interests. They don’t care. Why do you think Sept
11th happened? It was no accident. It was allowed. Those people
were acceptable casualties. Fuck ‘em all, that is less cattle herding the
planet and more air for me. Fucking Sheepeople, keep pumping out kids,
you’re the reason this kind of shit has to happen.
Dale –
I agree with everything you just said and with
evidence of repeated warnings and such to the FBI and CIA I have little
doubt they did let it happen, maybe they didn’t for see the extent of the
lives and damage, I think they thought it might be just like in ’93 where
just a few floors were taken out and the deceased were only in double
digits. Apparently I was the only one in the world who spotted on the only
shot (that they showed at least) of the first plane going in as the guy on
the street panned up you could see in the corner of the shot firemen already
in full uniform seemingly just standing by waiting for something happen. I
repeat this was the first plane what were they standing around in full gear
for?!
Cameron –
If we had that over here Jeff’s wigger friends would just steal everything!
Haha! I think Europe is waaayyy more advanced than the US socially. The US
puts ten times as much of the national budget into the military as it does
into health or education. Do you see Taliban swimming on camelback across
the ocean to attack? Fuck no James! (sorry hehe) The reason is because we
are in a corporatocracy (see above).Trash doesn’t get your taxes, Newt
Gingrich gives it to fucking Lockheed Martin to make 1.3 billion dollar
bomber planes that don’t even work in their advertised “stealth” capacity.
Fuck the USA and give me my fucking taxes back! On the other hand I work in
a service job and have to deal with snobby, braindead, subhuman trash scum
that I would love to beat with a well spiked baseball bat. Fuck it....total
war is the answer.
Keith –
About what Jeffrey said I definitely think every woman
or man in America after one child should be sterilized, and I think we
should make a compromise with our “brothers and sisters” in the inner city,
every prospective mother should be tested for drugs, if they find it in the
system we flush the baby and put the mother in jail...What I don’t
understand is when a black mother has a child born with AIDS, or addicted to
crack, we put them in foster care, then the mother can reapply when she has
“conquered her demons”. What about the case of the black mother who killed
the woman who adopted her crack addicted baby because she was white? First
of isn’t THAT a Hate Crime? How long are we going to give these people
second chances? This country is turning into a country for criminals!
Check out gun control, there are thousands of handgun murders every year in
America but only a handful in Europe, it isn’t our gun laws that is the
problem... it is the fact we have all of these uneducated “inner city folk”
polluting our bloodlines.
About the initial
question, no I don’t think if we had free instruments and places to play
that Americans would have a scene like Sweden’s, Europe is a WHOLE other
world from us. Americans are far too self important and self involved to be
bothered with playing in bands, plus Americans have to work for a living!
Sweden is socialist while we are capitalist (at least for black Americans,
they seem to live in a socialist country)....Plus even if we did have an
ideal socialist setting to do this, we would have a million more rappers,
Maria Carey wannnabes and NU metal bands, if you ask me, Europeans are just
smarter.
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Dale –
Has anyone here besides me had the pleasure to fuck a woman in the ass?
Ever titty fucked a girl? I recommend it. Can you imagine how cool it would
have been if we had the internet when we were a teen again in this day & age
with all that cool porn?!
Jeffrey –
I always had access to great porn. Me and my cousin used to be able to steal
Playboy’s off the racks back in the days when the shop owners didn’t keep
that stuff behind the counters. I have always had an obsession with nude
women. So much so that I can’t stomach pornography unless it is women alone.
Once I have to spy some guys hairy nut sac slapping against a girls ass as
he rides her then I simply lose all interest. Unshaven women are not a turn
on either. Women should always shave their pussies!
Dale –
No! Hairy all natural big titted women with a bit of
meat on their bones rule!!! Nothing like a nice hairy twat and a nice pair
of hanging because they are big jiggly titties. By the way slick job of not
answering most of the question Jeffrey haha!
Cameron –
No Dale, I’ve never done either yet. It’s been a while
since I interacted in a meaningful way with a meat entity. Long live the new
(cyber) flesh! (Videodrome) I know you have a hairy chick fetish since
reading your intie (in # 5) with Nick Scratch. And since we’ve never seen a
picture of your wife I must assume you are dating a teddy bear.
Keith –
Ah man, a pussy is a pussy, hairy, shaven, green,
blue, inverted, sideways, upside-down, its all a pussy! I think about the
hair issue though that a hairy pussy is preferable, at least for
orientation. In the dark if you feel some fuzz you know the runway’s
clear. NO I have never assfucked a woman and I NEVER WILL! Its bad enough
that when I am forty I have to have some proctologist shove his finger up MY
ASS to check my prostrate. Me and my woman have a sort of “don’t ask don’t
tell policy about our prospective posterior portholes.
I have this thing about
feces, if I see it, smell it or (GOD FORBID) taste it, I freak out! Jeffrey
you like Playboy? Man Playboy is BORING! I don’t even say “hi” to a woman
unless she is 180 pounds, man you get a 200 or 210 pounder-FUCK YEA! Women
NEED meat on their bones to look at all interesting, and screw this 18 and
19 year old stiffs they get in Playboy. Give me a 35 or 40 year old mother
of two! (It is called the Milf principle-Moms I’d Like to FUck-Milf). No,
the internet wouldn’t have been a good thing when I was a kid, Dale, you
know why I had to get rid of cable!? Don’t you? Those $300 a month bills
because porno was so easily available! If I know there is naked women being
fucked to be seen somewhere I lose all interest in everything else, drop
trou and SALUTE!
When I was a kid I
actually had fairly good porno access. I had cable and my mom didn’t
realize they had naked women on there, I had the JC Penney Spring and Winter
catalog, just in drier times, I had my stash which I stole from my friend’s
parents, and then...and this is going to surprise you and Jeffrey I think
Dale...I used to sneak into houses or around houses I was already in looking
for porn. You’d be surprised how many women in my mom’s neighborhood that
were wearing panties I blew my wad into! In fact just the other day I ran
into my mom’s friend, who I remember when I was 10 or 11 my mom went there
to babysit her then 3 year old kid. I found a TON of shit in HER house! I
was going to ask her, “so, do you still wear those black G strings?” !!!
HAHA! I guess that makes me kind of a letch, but when I was a kid I had the
fucking sex drive of like 10 twenty year old black guys at a convention of
chubby, blond white girls with low self esteem.
Dale –
Keith you never cease to amaze me man you fucking rule you sick fuck!! Hell
yeah!! I want to salute your statement above skinny chicks with their ribs
sticking out and no boobs are about as big a turn off as is possible – go
eat something you fucking swizzel sticks! I love my women voluptuous, busty,
some meat on their bones and nice bushy cunt! I think there are more guys
like us out there but are too PC to speak out about it as it is the society
accepted norm to look like a malnourished Ethiopian. It is these useless
dickheads who love fake hair, fake eyelashes, fake tits, and shaven pussies
(to feed their disgusting child molesting fantasies of being with a
pre-puberty little girl!) and now you have a hard time finding good porn
without one or all of these stiffy reducing elements. Another theory of mine
is guys who only watch Lesbo porn and refuse straight porn are really in
denial about their homo side! They are so in denial they are afraid to see a
dick on the screen, because they might like it! They probably shower with
their swim trunks on. But again thank you Keith for that big girls with big
boobs and a furry tunnel rule! Shaven pussies are like breast reduction
surgery – THEY SHOULD BE OUTLAWED!!!
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Dale –
I recently heard about some new “metal” zine called
Euphony Music News (VA) done by some chick. Which has a special section each
issue where she interviews a guy from a band, which is the most “gorgeous,
single & longhaired”. This is the kind of stigma all true female metal
warriors are trying to get rid of, this girl appears to be a walking,
talking bubble head stereotype. That would be like me interviewing some band
because there is a cute chick in it. Interview a porn star or a model if
that is all you want.
Jeffrey –
This is a detriment to the metal scene. Especially to
women. This kind of high school attitude is also why I no longer consider
myself a part of any “scene”. Fuck em all. I create what I want and support
what I want. I have my own personal scene I guess you could say. I pay no
attention to this groupie bullshit but I also don’t mind reading about it
getting ripped and of course I would like to see all these people fail in
their endeavors. Why don’t they interview bands like N’sync if that is the
kind of bullshit they support? Any person who is flattered by such a thing
is simply being nice and pretending or they are low level members of our
race that have a lot of growing up to do.
Cameron –
I actually find this funny of hell. I wish Deathrage
wasn’t dead. She can always come to my place as long as she brings a friend
and some plaster.
Keith –
This stigma that TRUE METAL females in today’s scene
are constantly subjected to is nothing short of criminal. Look at the band
Derketa, remember them? I know/knew several members of the band and the
band that “succeeded” them, Mythic. Do you want to know the truth? The
only member of the band out of all of them that was into metal before
joining the band(s), out of Dana, Terri, Mary and Sharon was Sharon.
All you heard from after
Mythic was started supposedly in the ashes of Derketa was about how cool an
all girl death metal band was to be. Terri, Mary and Dana were only into
it, at least in the beginning (and don’t deny it girls, I WAS THERE!)
because “death metal guys are so cute”. Sharon was into stuff like old
Rotting Christ, Carnage,Paradise Lost, RU Dead?, you know UGLY death metal
back in the glory days of 1988 and 1989, I knew Sharon in high school in
1986 and she was truer than anybody else at the West Allegheny cesspool
then. Unfortunately now, fucking jokes like Demonic Christ and the pitiful
situation that Penance is in now (practically denying they are even
metal-now they are suddenly “stoner rock”) are all you hear about, and they
are automatically gushed about in all of the “mainstream underground”
press...you know all of those zines “serviced” (pun FULLY intended) by
these metal sex kittens that work for labels like Century Media, Hammerfart
and Martyr music who have nothing on their mind but what is going to be
filling up their kunt after they come home from the metal show tonight. Who
loses? People like Sharon from Derketa, who knows more about metal and the
metal attitude than 9/10 of the guys in this scene... who else loses?
People who therefore
don’t give band’s run by people like Sharon that are excellent and true,
just because of this fucking stigma that (I will finally mention the little
monsterbitches name), well quite frankly, that people like MARIA ABRIL (the
head of Martyr music and she does work for Hammerheart too) put on females
in the scene, like this bitch that Dale talks about too. Hi Maria, remember
me? Well FUCK YOU! Anyway it is a fucking pity. That due to these women
that want the primary place in this scene to be on their knees and on their
backs, that REAL metalheads never do get a healthy respect for women. I
always have had a respect for human females, but these kind of people aren’t
really human at all, just female lap dogs...
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Dale –
The global climate is changing and of course over thousands or millions
of years it always does but I think it is quickening at an intensely
accelerated rate. Look at all the strange weather patterns. I live in the
Northern US and there is no snow at all and we have had days in February
that were 70 degrees F! Yet in fucking Arizona / Nevada / South Carolina in
the same month in the desert they get ice and snow storms. If I am right and
it is happening like that I am convinced the human race is to blame for it.
Jeffrey –
It is correct that our climate is indeed changing.
Fucking humans are always to blame for filth and detritus but in this case
it isn’t just us. Greenhouse gases are the cause of the melting polar ice
caps and ice flow from the north has increased over 300% in the last
century. It isn’t just our car’s burning fuel, factories refining oil, and
trailer trash burning tires but recently discovered huge deposits of methane
plates under the ocean floor. This methane exists at a low temperature and
therefore is in solid form rather than gaseous. We accidentally tapped into
them via oil rigs placed in the middle of the oceans and exposed them for
the atmosphere murderers that they are. As a matter of fact, it is said that
the largest release of this methane in these plates was released during a
collapse of coastal land in Norway directly after the ice age. The methane
is proposed to have sped up the global warming and helping thrust life on
our planet hundreds of years ahead. It is pre-programmed in this planet. We
can’t avoid it and so we might as well enjoy our time here now. It’s simply
a matter of time before we freeze and whose to say when the next great
meteor will strike us all?
Dale –
Well those are some of the man made and non-man made causes but there are
more but I don’t know if I have the space or even have all the facts on rest
memorized but rest assured it is all traced back to us more or less in one
way or another.
Cameron –
I don’t like to admit you’re right on this because I
find it really scary and saddening to my pagan spirit. But you are. I have a
deep love for my home planet and my feelings are better expressed in
instrumentals like Ghost Dance by Overkill or Intro to Thousand Swords by
Graveland.
Keith –
I used to be a card carrying republican, I have voted republican in about 4
elections (2 presidential) before I finally wised up. I also am a student
of agriculture and botany now at a local college here in Pittsburgh and
quite frankly I would rather believe the people I deal with in this industry
that make their life studying the environment, the Earth’s ecosystems and
their rapidly changing status, than these conservative political pundits
who make their life feeding the system, instead of really worrying about the
truth and other pesky things like this.
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Dale –
You all know classic Venom (ie the immortal “Black Metal” LP) is the best
music on the planet right !?!
Jeffrey
– It’s right up there man. The old days are
untouchable. Too bad Venom didn’t stick to their guns. My vote goes for old
Bathory. Quorthon may have been influenced by Venom but he was sicker than
they could have ever imagined.
Dale –
I won’t start a big fight but I will say in response
to that NO THEY WERE NOT SICKER!!! In fact they were influenced by Venom and
only took their lead and created some great vile music – nothing more…
Cameron –
Good thing we have a sense of sarcasm here Dale. Under
A Spell had such an awe inspiring chorus don’t you think? Yessir it sounded
like one of those bar bands that have been playing the same shit for ten
damn years. My, what metal power! I’m going to jump the gun on Keith’s
answer and say he thinks Boy George was way sicker than Bathory or Venom!
Dale –
The golden rule in Canadian Assault is you never put
down or say anything that can be construed as non-worship of classic Venom,
the fathers of all black metal!!! Actually while on the subject someone told
there is a song on the new Bathory called “Sudden Death” about ice hockey –
is this true?! If so completely gay!!!
Jeffrey –
Fuck Quorthon - that’s gay!!
Keith –
If you ask me who is better I will undoubtedly say Venom, Venom from the
Welcome to Hell / Black Metal era is, without a doubt, the most highly
charged musical atmosphere ever created by mortals. If you ask me who is
responsible for the second generation of black metal, all of these bands,
from Burzum to Judas Iscariot I will say Bathory. Who do I like better is an
even more complicated question... when I get up in the morning and I need a
boost to get my sorry ass out of bed, I throw in Welcome to Hell. When I am
driving around on a sunny day in my car with the windows open, I am usually
blaring something like Black Metal or Possessed. However when I am sitting
alone in my room with a candle burning late in the night I would probably
opt for something like The Return, or when I am prowling the streets of
Pittsburgh at 3AM, I would definitely opt for Under the Sign of the Black
Mark. Oh yes one last thing, Dale remember the BEST Venom album is Welcome
to Hell, but you knew that eh? HAHA!
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Cameron –
As for a topic to contribute-How about some dirt on Century Media? Are they
of ANY use to the underground? (I’m serious) Do they have any integrity? Do
you have any personal horror stories to share? My worry is that they may be
bought by one of the majors who would trash some of the good things and turn
it into an alternative label.
Dale –
If this were the early 1990s I might have rebuked what you said but now it
is awful hard to argue that point. I can sum it up as an example in two
words “Stuck Mojo”. I actually half expected when NB US merged with Century
Media US that a major might swoop in and buy them.
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Cameron –
Ahhhh the wacky Falwell/Robertson crowd. Fine, fine examples of how churches
are, in fact, corporations. This little stunt is meant to garner free
publicity for their empire so as to draw more McDonalds eating, Britney
Spears loving, knuckledraggers into joining up and donating! Here ye,here
ye.
The
opinions expressed within this article are the writers alone and are their
opihions. C.A. reserves the right to disagree or completely and utterly
agree with each and every word! So ends our discussion. We’ve all drained
our fluids upon the nun we had earlier strapped to the table. I swear my
comrades to an oath of secrecy as to our meeting place and they all pass
out, I drain my goblet, gather my papers made from human skin with writings
done in blood and wisk away into the night. Until we meet again… -
Dale Roy
God
Gave U.S. 'What We Deserve,' Falwell Says
By John F. Harris
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, September 14, 2001; Page C03
“Television
evangelists Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, two of the most prominent
voices of the religious right, said liberal civil liberties groups,
feminists, homosexuals and abortion rights supporters bear partial
responsibility for Tuesday's terrorist attacks because their actions have
turned God's anger against America. "God continues to lift the curtain and
allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve," said
Falwell, appearing yesterday on the Christian Broadcasting Network's "700
Club," hosted by Robertson. "Jerry, that's my feeling," Robertson responded.
"I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror. We haven't even begun to
see what they can do to the major population." Falwell said the American
Civil Liberties Union has "got to take a lot of blame for this," again
winning Robertson's agreement: "Well, yes." Then Falwell broadened his blast
to include the federal courts and others who he said were "throwing God out
of the public square." He added: "The abortionists have got to bear some
burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40
million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the
pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the
lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the
ACLU, People for the American Way -- all of them who have tried to
secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped
this happen.' " People for the American Way transcribed the broadcast and
denounced the comments as running directly counter to President Bush's call
for national unity. Ralph G. Neas, the liberal group's president, called the
remarks "absolutely inappropriate and irresponsible." Robertson and others
on the religious right gave critical backing to Bush last year when he was
battling for the GOP presidential nomination. A White House official called
the remarks "inappropriate" and added, "The president does not share those
views." Falwell was unrepentant, saying in an interview that he was "making
a theological statement, not a legal statement." "I put all the blame
legally and morally on the actions of the terrorist," he said. But he said
America's "secular and anti-Christian environment left us open to our Lord's
[decision] not to protect. When a nation deserts God and expels God from the
culture . . . the result is not good." Robertson was not available for
comment, a spokeswoman said. But she released a statement echoing the
remarks he made on his show. An ACLU spokeswoman said the group "will not
dignify the Falwell-Robertson remarks with a comment." ” © 2001
The Washington Post Company
